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    RIP Tribute: Jets OL

    we had mired in the mud with Anthony clement, Adrian clark and Jacob bender..and the GM took a chance on a traveled vet center who moved to RT. how many times has that ever happened in the NFL.. C to T??!!! . Damien woody was added to the brick and mangold era. replacing the revolving doors at RT. well, it paid off big time
    faneca had been brought in, and we never recognized what a gem we had in moore, because of the other issues and high picks. the 2009 OL was the best in football, both in pass protection and in the running game. it was the best OL in jets history. they were the ones who went to Foxboro and ran the ball down bellys throat. they were the ones who hid mark sanchez on a run to two AFC title games. they slipped a bit when woody left, but mangold and brick were still regarded in NFL circles almost always played up to their draft status. they were a perfect compliment to the modern game, a LT who could handle any speed rusher and a center who could handle any 3-4 size NT!

    But now Im ready to part ways ... thanks for the ride guys

    yeah, yeah it might be a half a year too early but Im bored on a pre-thanksgiving afternoon!

    edit: f sanchez and his butt fumble moore doesn't deserve this crap
    Last edited by AFL12; 11-25-2015 at 08:30 PM. Reason: butt fumble

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    for all their problems, the Jets OL has the least amount of sacks given up in the entire league

    the real issue here is injuries. Colon on IR for the year (and no one better to replace him), and Mangold's various injuries have been really problematic. They missed him at Oakland. He didn't look the same against NE and last week he suffered a cut so deep on his hand, he couldn't snap the ball. Nick Mangold is the offense's best player, and there's no one close. If he's all banged up they are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFL12 View Post
    we had mired in the mud with Anthony clement, Adrian clark and Jacob bender..and the GM took a chance on a traveled vet center who moved to RT. how many times has that ever happened in the NFL.. C to T??!!! . Damien woody was added to the brick and mangold era. replacing the revolving doors at RT. well, it paid off big time
    faneca had been brought in, and we never recognized what a gem we had in moore, because of the other issues and high picks. the 2009 OL was the best in football, both in pass protection and in the running game. it was the best OL in jets history. they were the ones who went to Foxboro and ran the ball down bellys throat. they were the ones who hid mark sanchez on a run to two AFC title games. they slipped a bit when woody left, but mangold and brick were still regarded in NFL circles almost always played up to their draft status. they were a perfect compliment to the modern game, a LT who could handle any speed rusher and a center who could handle any 3-4 size NT!

    But now Im ready to part ways ... thanks for the ride guys

    yeah, yeah it might be a half a year too early but Im bored on a pre-thanksgiving afternoon!

    edit: f sanchez and his butt fumble moore doesn't deserve this crap
    Actually 12, you may be a year & a half too late; at least for some of the OL. Jason makes it clear in his article that what we are faced with here is the result of both neglect of upgrading the OL & the history of poor drafting under both Tanny & Idzik.

    Now we likely have to face replacing at least 4 starters over a 2 year period (and that's if Carpenter is at least adequate looking down the road) & that will be one of the primary reasons why we are looking at at least 2 years to be competitive. I know you read Jason's article & IMO he nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitonti View Post
    for all their problems, the Jets OL has the least amount of sacks given up in the entire league

    the real issue here is injuries. Colon on IR for the year (and no one better to replace him), and Mangold's various injuries have been really problematic. They missed him at Oakland. He didn't look the same against NE and last week he suffered a cut so deep on his hand, he couldn't snap the ball. Nick Mangold is the offense's best player, and there's no one close. If he's all banged up they are in trouble.
    More superifical meaningless stats from he Bitiot.

    Yeah, sacks given up are the sole determination of an OL. Not pressures, hurries, yards per carry...sacks.

    Brick has been average at best. Bruno below average. Colon was a JAG when healthy and that we can't find someone better is a pretty damning fact. Carpenter has been OK and Mangold has been hurt and is their only above average player on the OL. But hey...they haven't given up a lot of sacks so I guess all is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSGold12 View Post
    More superifical meaningless stats from he Bitiot.

    Yeah, sacks given up are the sole determination of an OL. Not pressures, hurries, yards per carry...sacks.

    Brick has been average at best. Bruno below average. Colon was a JAG when healthy and that we can't find someone better is a pretty damning fact. Carpenter has been OK and Mangold has been hurt and is their only above average player on the OL. But hey...they haven't given up a lot of sacks so I guess all is fine.
    Just remember the mantra MSG. No offensive lineman in the entire history of the league has ever been responsible for a negative play by the O. All Ol are perfect, always have been & always will be!

    By the way, do you remember what position the Bitiot played in pee-wee football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ret2ski View Post
    Actually 12, you may be a year & a half too late; at least for some of the OL. Jason makes it clear in his article that what we are faced with here is the result of both neglect of upgrading the OL & the history of poor drafting under both Tanny & Idzik.

    Now we likely have to face replacing at least 4 starters over a 2 year period (and that's if Carpenter is at least adequate looking down the road) & that will be one of the primary reasons why we are looking at at least 2 years to be competitive. I know you read Jason's article & IMO he nailed it.
    ret. if mangold can over come these injuries and stay healthy and brick holds on, we can squeeze a year or so out of them. but it will blow up sudden and dramatically soon after

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSGold12 View Post
    More superifical meaningless stats from he Bitiot.

    Yeah, sacks given up are the sole determination of an OL. Not pressures, hurries, yards per carry...sacks.

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    LOL, MSG I detailed a unit that was the best in the nfl by a large margin and the best the jets ever assembled, and we get that response , soooo bit

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    I think this is an on going problem with franchise. They spend all the draft picks on defense and let the offense go to hell, then reverse cause and do just the opposite. That other team that I will not mention spends all its high picks on defense and not one is spent on the offense.

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