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    Trump Is Right about the NFL Protests

    Interesting take..

    Trump Is Right about the NFL Protests

    A response to David French
    By John Hawkins — September 26, 2017

    I’m a big fan of David French’s work, so I was disappointed to read his column “I Understand Why They Knelt.” Respectfully (and I mean that), I believe it is off-base on almost every point that matters.

    For example, French treats Trump’s suggestion that NFL players be fired as a First Amendment issue and an abridgement of their free speech. This is just not so. NFL players do have a right of free speech, but they don’t have a right to avoid criticism for engaging in that speech. Despite the fact that Trump said NFL players should be fired, he didn’t call for Congress to take action. He didn’t try to push through an executive order saying that protesting the flag should be illegal. He hasn’t promised that the government will go after the NFL. He used his free speech to criticize their free speech. I’m not sure how that violates the First Amendment or curtails the rights of the NFL players disrespecting our flag, who are still employed.

    French then goes on to complain that Trump “did more to politicize sports than ESPN has done in a decade of biased, progressive programming.”Except that’s exactly backwards. ESPN and the NFL have been slamming politics down our throats for over a year. I know that because I wrote a column calling for conservatives to boycott the NFL a year ago. Many other conservatives have done the same thing, and millions of fans have complained. But when someone with a platform big enough to cut through the noise echoes the complaint so many conservatives have, he’s supposed to be at fault?

    Then there’s the real complaint, an argument that in a roundabout way cuts to the heart of what I believe is wrong with French’s approach to the issue. French says: “The hypocrisy runs the other way, too. I was startled to see many conservatives who decried Google’s termination of a young, dissenting software engineer work overtime yesterday to argue that Trump was somehow in the right.”

    I did not expect Donald Trump to win the 2016 election, and like many, many other political professionals, I was egregiously wrong. After listening to what a lot of diehard Trump fans had to say, I took two big lessons away from being that wrong.

    The first is that I’m not Nostradamus, and I shouldn’t be in the business of definitively saying one candidate will win or lose a race. Hopefully, a lot of us learned that lesson in 2016.

    The other is that unfortunately, a large number of conservative Americans have given up on people like me, on people like David French, and on magazines like National Review. Do I think that’s right? Fair? Smart? Nope, but I do get it.

    They hear us talk all day about our principles as if we’re going to solve the problems we have via some kind of discussion among gentlemen. Meanwhile, the liberal response is “You’re a Nazi, and you shouldn’t be allowed to have a job unless you agree with us.” We’re trying to win theoretical victories for our principles, but the Left is fighting to win in the real world — and they are coming out on top in the cultural wars with ease. The very fact that we’re even having this debate about the NFL (remember when sports was where you went to get awayfrom politics?) tells you who’s winning.

    You want to be a conservative and have run-of-the-mill political beliefs? Then you’d better work somewhere that’s friendly to conservatives, or you might end up like James Damore at Google, Brandon Eich at Mozilla, or even Curt Schilling at ESPN. That’s if you don’t have some government official really squelching your First Amendment rights by telling you to “bake the cake” or be run out of business. You want to express an ordinary conservative opinion at college? In Hollywood? Then you’d better think twice or prepare for a river of abuse. Even the Boy Scouts are being systematically destroyed. We may not want to fight a culture war, but the reality is that a culture war is being fought against people like us every day whether we like it or not, and the NFL has chosen to be part of that.

    A lot of conservatives are tired of the double standard. They just want to watch an NFL game or a movie without having liberal politics slammed down their throat. They’re disgusted by the fact that they’re treated like dirt by corporations like the NFL, ESPN, Apple, and Starbucks while liberalism is openly embraced. Of course, from a pure business perspective, it’s almost hard to blame the companies. If conservatives are always going to defend these corporations and say, “Thank you, Sir; may I have another?” when they smack us around because of our principles, while liberals demand special treatment, it makes all the sense in the world for them to cater to liberals.

    So when Trump goes after the NFL, what many conservatives see is someone doing something that matters more the next 1,000 essays that we’ll write. Guess what? They’re probably right, because — again, respectfully — David French may see an embarrassment, but what the NFL and other increasingly left-leaning corporations see are vast piles of money and legions of fans flying out the window. Those other companies are looking at the NFL and thinking, “Thank God we’re not in this situation. We better be a little more careful.” If you don’t believe that, go take a look at the Facebook fan pages of NFL teams from Monday. Very few of these teams have ever experienced a backlash like this. If you care about an increasingly liberal culture that seems to be going haywire, their bad day because of Trump is a good thing.

    Getting back to the job question, I’m glad Colin Kaepernick doesn’t have one, and I would love to see NFL players fired for kneeling, because liberals don’t care about our arguments or our principles. They only care about the possibility that they might be on the receiving end of the same treatment they give us. Let liberals start getting fired for their views and they may start having some second thoughts. If they don’t, we’re just evening the playing field, because they’re already firing conservatives for their views.

    Maybe it would be a better world if we weren’t having debates about NFL players and Confederate statues, but that’s not the world we live in. This is an issue that matters to an awful lot of Americans, not just because of the disrespect shown to our country, but also because it’s symbolic of how liberalism has been allowed to spread unchecked through our culture. If Trump’s rants and tweets get more Americans to do something about it, then he has done a good thing.

    NR Editorial: Time Out
    No Way to Treat Old Glory
    I Understand Why They Knelt

    — John Hawkins owns Right Wing News and Grumpy Sloth. He also writes weekly columns for Townhall. You can hear more from him on Twitter.

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    Not only is Trump right about the disjointed meaningless, no skin-in-the-game protests, the purported reason these started is not only a sham, but THE REASON blacks are being killed more than ever over the past 25 years!

    (BTW, I was going to start a new thread for this topic, but I was getting server errors opening a new one so I added on this this one.)

    Black lives actually DON’T matter to NFL & the Left

    Black lives matter? Violent crime, black victims are at highest level in 25 years.

    Posted September 27, 2017 11:52 AM by Daniel Horowitz

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    Lost in the imbroglio over the NFL’s disrespect for our national anthem is the irony of the original impetus for Colin Kaepernick’s antics. Players are protesting supposed police brutality while new data shows there is a growing epidemic of violent crime in America, which is likely the result of dissuading police from proactive law enforcement work.

    Sadly, the biggest victims of this rebounding epidemic are African Americans. Where is the protest or outrage over violent crime in inner cities rather than the police response to it (or lack thereof)?

    It’s hard to overstate the importance of yesterday’s release of crime data from the FBI showing a second straight year with rising violent crime. After plummeting for 23 years, violent crime rose in 2015 and again in 2016, bending the only positive social trajectory we have witnessed over the past generation.

    According to the FBI, violent crime rose by 4.1 percent and the murder rate spiked by 8.6 percent — the greatest single-year increase in 25 years. Also, while the murder rate spiked in all city size groups, it skyrocketed by over 20 percent in cities with over 1 million people. This, after increasing by a similar rate in 2015.

    While the overall violent crime rate is still relatively low compared to the ‘70s, due to the quarter-century-long decline, the rate has now climbed back to 2012 levels, setting us back five years’ worth of progress.

    These latest numbers demonstrate that the 2015 increase was not a blip on the radar but a likely trajectory change. Unlike most other statistics, which fluctuate from time to time, this new trend is very alarming.

    When violent crime drops every year for over two decades, there are clearly some fixed and inveterate macro-factors at play. While criminologists disagree over the causes behind the drop, more aggressive policing and tougher sentences are undeniably a major part of the equation.

    But whether one believes the great crime-reduction miracle is the result of tough-on-crime laws or other sociological reasons, it takes a pretty transcendent countervailing factor to reverse this 23-year trend by even a small percentage, much less such a significant increase.

    This is why it’s dishonest when some major media outlets tout the fact that crime is still relatively low compared to the pre-‘90s era; there has been a generational sea shift in violent crime that is almost permanent. Of course, it will take many years of dismantling law and order to return to the pre-Giuliani days. Do we really want to wait for another few years of spikes in crime to pull the fire alarm?

    It is hard to deny that that the war on the police over the past few years has affected policing practices and performance nationwide. Also, the chickens of the endless criminal releases and leniencies in sentencing sweeping the nation are coming home to roost.

    As we observed last year in our series of articles on the effort to promote jailbreak, now is the worst time to begin rolling back all the factors that led to the miraculous decline in violent crime. Which is why having Jared Kushner work with the Left on criminal justice reform is another disaster waiting to happen, on par with his collaboration with Senator Dick Durbin on amnesty.

    Thus, it is clear that the Black Lives Matter war on police has done more to fuel crime than any other factor this generation. Who does it hurt the most? The very lives for which they claim to care.

    According to the WSJ, “in 2014, 698 more blacks were killed than whites, according to the FBI. In 2015, 1,185 more blacks were killed than whites, according to the data.” Well, based on the new tables in the FBI’s “Crime in the United States” report, 1,305 more blacks were killed than whites in 2016. That is simply an astounding statistic given that blacks comprise just 13 percent of the population. And the trajectory has gotten worse since the inception of the war on the police.

    Folks, this is not the result of police brutality, this is the result of the war on the police and preventing them from addressing the real issue plaguing American cities – black-on-black crime. There were almost 1,100 more black murder offenders than whites, even though they comprise a fraction of the population.

    We could shut down every police department in America and all it would do is lead to more bloodletting for everyone, but most devastatingly for black communities. Even if we were to accept the premise of the Black Lives Matter movement that all 16 unarmed blacks shot by police last year were not in self-defense, that accounts for just 0.002% of the 7,881 black homicide victims, the overwhelming majority of whom were killed by black criminals, not whites or police.

    What we are seeing today in popular culture protesting the police is akin to protesting the firefighters instead of the arsonists. Do black lives really matter? If they do, the hard data show incontrovertibly that the Ferguson effect – dismantling the police and the criminal justice system in inner cities – is the most direct way to ensuring that their lives indeed don’t matter.

    Perhaps we — alongside NFL players, SJWs nationwide, and perpetually outraged BLM groups — should take a knee for the missing 7,881 black victims of 2016 … just not during the national anthem.

    Daniel Horowitz is a senior editor of Conservative Review. Follow him on Twitter @RMConservative.
    Last edited by ibleedgreen; 09-29-2017 at 04:00 PM.

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    Whose going to take a knee to protest all the black men impregnating 10 different women and leaving them to raise those kids on their own?

    Whose going to take a knee to protest the black on black crime in Chicago?

    urbanjet, you in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pope View Post
    Whose going to take a knee to protest all the black men impregnating 10 different women and leaving them to raise those kids on their own?

    Whose going to take a knee to protest the black on black crime in Chicago?

    urbanjet, you in?

    The problem I see in America today is you have massive swaths of ignorant people on both sides of the aisle who simply go along and parrot whatever the media tells them to. Some are ignorant because they don't have the time, interest, or mental capacity to digest the issues and invest time in researching them. Others fancy themselves enlightened and smarter than your average bear, but are also as intellectually lazy and ignorant, so they parrot sources they find to be "high minded", which are actually where the real deception is taking place--twisting words and pushing bogus narratives--as opposed to straight-up propaganda.

    The bottom line is that the ideas of the left are nonexistent so they rely on division and agitation. They need to keep these masses in the dark, lest they begin to form their own opinions based on facts and reality. So they do the "research" for these time-strapped yet highly opinionated and pompous folks. And the cycle repeats.

    No conversation is necessary when everyone is telling everyone else how it is and yet without having a clue.

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