Another thing

[JetsMan57]

This team needs to get meaner and tougher.... Watching Victor Hobson smiling and yucking it up with Brady after plays really got under my skin, and other Jet players helping up Pats at the end of plays. I didnt see the Pats do that for us, Adalius Thomas was hitting everything and site and making us know about it. Seymour takes out our QB and looked like he iddnt have an ounce of sympathy about it.

Get some friggin attitude already.

[pope]

smallest guy on the jets is the toughest (Leon). HGHarrison was doing his typical late hit, shoving players after the whistle etc. Leon kept going right back at him.

The most disgusting thing was Kerry Rhodes basically french kissing belicheat after the game.

[ibleedgreen]

This team needs to get meaner and tougher.... Watching Victor Hobson smiling and yucking it up with Brady after plays really got under my skin, and other Jet players helping up Pats at the end of plays. I didnt see the Pats do that for us, Adalius Thomas was hitting everything and site and making us know about it. Seymour takes out our QB and looked like he iddnt have an ounce of sympathy about it.

Get some friggin attitude already.

That's the unfortunate thing about modern professional sports that irks nearly everyone. It's a league-wide thing now. The prevailing attitude is apathy and the underlying belief that "it's just a job".

Fans up here in Boston were p!ssed seeing Jeter and Nomar playing grab @$$ while Nomie was on 2nd base years back, but the truth is they were friends who had a lot of respect for each other. And I remember how hated Keyshawn was in these parts and how it enraged the Patsie loyalists when he and Ty Law were yucking it up on National TV.

The fact is that these guys are now celebrities and millionaires and that comes first. There's no need to despise your opponent because in the end, you are all winners ... at the bank.

The old timers, who played for peanuts, really can't stomach this development either. They speak of an era where teams really hated one another and it showed on the field. Those days are all but gone. Now you have villains like TO and ScumBelly, but no real hated rivalries. It's become a media orchestrated event with talk radio fueling the fires more than anything. But on the field there's not much juice anymore. It's easy to make an argument that the money these people make is immoral. Sad but true. :ohwell:

[JetJim]

I don't know IBG, is it immoral to pay CEO's 30 mil per year while they cut jobs because it helps the company's "bottom line?" And is it worse because the companies say they need to pay that much so their CEO will feel properly motivated to do the best job? We only pay the President of the US $400,000 per year. I guess according to corporate America he's not properly motivated? What we pay our celebs, ceos, and professional athletes isn't just immoral, its obscene IMO. But it makes perfect sense when you consider that we are a capitalist society. Those who make money for the powers that be get paid accordingly. Who brings in more cash than ceo's, celebs, and professional athletes? If you want to help people, get a social work degree and accept that you will never make more than about 50k per year. Or be a teacher and maybe make a bit more than that by retirement age. Or go get a job at a bank. You won't make a positive contribution in another person's life, but you'll make cash for the already wealthy, so in return they'll pay you 120k. That's our society. We don't value people who help others. What we value is people who make money for us so we don't have to. The almighty dollar is what we value, plain and simple. Its all we truly value, and that is very, very sad.

[bitonti]

What we pay our celebs, ceos, and professional athletes isn't just immoral, its obscene IMO..

no one makes more than the owners. SO for every celeb or athlete making millions there's a fatcat owner making hundreds of millions, don't forget that.

Directv pays NFL billions (with a B) for ticket rights and that's aside the normal network deals. the huge money is coming in, it's being made by people who aren't putting their bodies on the line.

all that aside the market pays these people what they get because they have a rare skillset.

having the skillset to be an NFL player is similar to that of army special forces. to have the skillset of a guy like A_rod, hitting a baseball 3.5 times out of 10 that's like the skillset of the world's best neurosurgeon.

it's not about who benefits society most it's about rarity.

as to the topic of this thread, just getting angry at your foe guarantees nothing. there are 53 handsomely paid athletes on both sides, and I can't say that the 3-10 Jets losing 20-10 to the 13-0 Pats on the road is a case of the Jets not having enough fire in the belly.